So You Want to Move Your IRA Part 2

So I waited a while to post this because I wanted things to be all done before I posted again…. thus the multi-week delay. When we last left off, I was on the phone with Fidelity to do something I could have done online.

After peeking over the Bank of America representative’s shoulder while he was talking I figured out that I could do what he did on my own. So I finished the call with Fidelity and scheduled sales of the Fidelity only funds and headed home.

A few days later the sales finalized and I went online to fill out the requests to transfer funds (BTW, not sure what security was in place behind the scenes but this seemed too easy to do). In doing this, I found out that I could have just filled out the form online and the funds that could not be transferred would have been automatically sold and moved.

Anyway, about a week after the call to Fidelity, everything was moved over and sitting in cash in my new account. The representative had said that he would expedite the status sweep to get me the free trades to reallocate my funds. After waiting on that for a week I just paid the $6.95 per trade to re-invest my money.

One more week after that and status was updated and I was all good to go, and I was promised that the trade fees would be reversed (which they were a week later). So, about a month later I could claim success.

I now know why places offer cash to move funds into their accounts. It’s a pain with not a lot of guidance online. That said, I was successful and I’m happy to have stuff all placed the way I like it.

So You Want to Move Your IRA Part 1

Well Bank of America has a rewards program where if you have $20,000 there or at Merrill Lynch you can get some cool extra benefits on credit cards and some free trades and accounts (btw, this is not a recommendation, I am just trying it out now). I have been looking at doing this for quite some time and decided to give it a shot. Little did I know I would be descending into the dark underbelly of moving funds. Hopefully as I go though this it can help someone else not make my time consuming mistakes.

I had a couple of accounts at Fidelity I wanted to move and I am pretty savvy so I figured how hard could it be… some internet searches and looking around the Fidelity site and I was left with a form that would get a check mailed to me that I would have to put in a new IRA before the time ran out and I owed taxes. This did not seem right so a chat with the Fidelity reps that lasted 20 minutes… took me back to the same form.

I graduated to a call from there and was told the trade would have to be initiated from Merrill Lynch to make it automated between them like I wanted. Makes sense, not a big issue other than it should have been easier to find this answer (it’s like they don’t want you moving your money out of their hands). Decided to make an appointment and have someone at Merrill Lynch walk me through things. It’s free so why not.

Well, the representative was friendly and told me we’d set up the accounts and I could come back to start the transfer after the accounts here created. Satisfied with my ability to figure things out I headed home. The accounts required an online signature I could not do in the office as their iPad was missing but no big deal.

I headed home and opened email one and worked my way through the questions, signed and created the login. Awesome, off to account two! Wait, the link requires making a new login again, but it can’t because it’s tied to the email and there is already an account with that email, but it can not use an existing account it needs a new one. An online chat later I just delete the other email and self create the new account online. Success (and a little shame that I just did not do this myself as it was super simple)! Now to wait for the meeting in a week to try the transfer.

A week later I head back into the Bank of America branch where my next meeting is. I have my new zero balance accounts at Merrill Lynch just waiting for some stocks, and a statement with all my Fidelity info (I had taken this last time too). Issue one, the representative realizes I had funds that were Fidelity specific in one account. I was told the online form he had did not support that and I needed to sell those before the move. So now the representative is calling Fidelity then passing me the phone to request the sale while the other transfer is set up.

More to come but the end is NOT in sight.

Panama Canal Cruise Planning Continued

So on to the actual booking…

Like I mentioned I wanted to use Marriott points to play for $1000 of the cruise. I know 0.4 cents per mile is not a great value, but I just don’t need that many hotel rooms and I am more likely to pay for a cheap Marriott at $80 or $90 a night instead of using 50,000 points for a super expensive night where I am getting a “good” value for my points.

Anyway, that meant I needed to book through the Marriott cruise program so it was time for a call. I know that that traveling solo makes things complicated. Thankfully I settled in for a long call. If you remember, I was planning on a cost of around $1750 (plus the $25 fee for booking through Marriott). I called in and gave the helpful agent my information and she got to work. A brief hold while she priced the cruise before coming back to me with a price of around $2300.

I restated my status discount, confirmed the per person price, did the math with her and asked her to recheck (as well as asked her to check the military/law enforcement discount as well). It was a 25 minute hold this time, but she came back to tell me that they had gotten it down to $1900 (she was on a conference call in with a Royal Caribbean rep) and could I stay on hold a bit longer. Another 15 minutes or so and she came back on with a price right at $1700 plus the $25 fee. It was well worth the wait to save $600.

It is important when pushing like this to be polite. I am a firm believer in using please and thank you and being understanding. I did talk to the Marriott representative some and learned what had happened. There was a promotion for $100 on board credit that was blocking the status discount for a solo traveler and the military/law enforcement discount. Giving up the $100 and taking $50 instead saved me $600 or a net savings of $550.

Counting up the dollars:
– Cruise and fee: $1725
– Paid with points: $1000
– Paid with Chase Card $25 (will earn $1.13 in points)
– Will pay with BofA $700 (should earn $36.75 cash back)
– $700 will credit through Marriott cruise portal for 2100 points ($8.40 toward next cruise)
– Depending on how you look at it*, the cruise costs me:$678.72
– If I really want to push the cost justification… those 32 nights of elite credit represent $109.71 of the cruise credit I will get for reaching 700 nights
*I am basically counting the $1000 of points as free to me as they are from work travel mainly

Next up, some non-cruise budget stuff.

Panama Canal Cruise on the Cheap

A bit of background before I start. There are a lot of blog out there about the best way to use points and sales to get the maximum value out of your credit cards and spending. This is meant to be a real world example of how I make things work. There are better ways to do things than I do, but this is what works for me as far as ease of use and where I am at at the moment.

So, back to this cruise. I keep a list of cruises I really want to do, and a price point I’ll consider them at. This one through the Panama Canal has been one I’ve wanted to do for a while but Royal Caribbean is usually pretty pricey. When I saw a good sale in April I started my one hour call to try to get this at the price I wanted.

I travel solo, but have enough Royal Caribbean points to just have to pay 150% instead of double in most cases. You always just have to pay the taxes and port fees per person in the room.

Here is what I saw online:
– Inside stateroom: $959 per person plus $310 in taxes and port fees.
– Best case would be $1748.50 traveling solo if everything lined up
– My cap for this cruise was $2000 so this was in the range I was looking for

Still working on paying off the mortgage so that was also a limiter. This was in the price range but I was not sure I wanted to spend that much. Because of that, I decided to use my Marriott points to pay for a chunk of the cruise. Where it makes sense I use Marriott for work travel and had just passed 250,000 points which is $1000 at .4 cents per point redemtion value.

Next up, the long call and how I’m planning to maximize paying for the cruise.

What this blog is all about…

Hi all, if you found this I am really surprised as there’s almost no content here and I have not told anyone about it.

This will be a place to put my thoughts about travel (specifically cruising) and saving money and cutting costs (to afford more cruises).

My next planned cruise is FL to CA via the Panama Canal which I have wanted to do for ages. I’ll be talking about how I paid for that and got a deal in a future post.

On the money saving front I am in the process of consolidating some stuff at Merrill Lynch to get some benefits at BofA as far as accounts and credit cards… that has been an adventure I’ll write up soon. Also, I have just been training to optimize spending in the never ending struggle to get my daily food+drink budget down from $7.50 a day to $7 per day.